Official Lockheed P-38 Lightning Painting Thread

[pflanzer]

Furuta Choco Egg 1/200 P-38
http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=72359&d=1359082149

New Ray 1/200 P-38
http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=69731&d=1356495032

Both together
http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=72360&d=1359082651

I tried to go for more generic markings for both the European and Pacific Theaters.
Tony

[Bluedevil]

I like them...its an iconic aircraft...:thumbsup:

[Flying Officer Kyte]

:clap: Well once again you have worked the oracle with these machines. Almost makes me wish that I had done WWII. Almost.
Rob.

[Archidamus]

Very nice :salute:

[flash]

Nice looking models Tony :thumbsup:

[Baron Rolf]

Nice planes there Tony :thumbsup:

[Lloydthegamer]

Here's a few more P38s. All are Minicraft 1/144. The two green dragon planes were actually the first 1/144 kits I built, this about 5 years ago. Better late than never getting them photoed. First the is mount of Capt. Walter Duke 459th FS/80th FG, 10 kills and the top US ace in the CBI theater.

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Next is a fictional Lightning of the same squadron.

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Here's a quartet of killers from the 475th FG. Over 100 confirmed kills from this bunch.

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Hot Box Annie from the 431st FS

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The CO of the 475th FG was Col. Charles MacDonald and this is his Putt Putt Maru. He finished the war with 27 kills.

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Maj. Tom McGuire CO 431st FS flew a series of Pudgy named Lightnings. He was 2nd leading US ace with 38 kills

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America's Ace of Aces, Maj. Richard Bong scored 40 kills. This is one of his Marge aircraft.

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[clipper1801]

DO NOT TEMPT ME!!!! Very nice indeed!

[Lloydthegamer]

Clip, I can hear your elves already moaning about a new project! :)

[Flying Officer Kyte]

Super set of aircraft Lloyd. They all look splendid.
Rob.

[gully_raker]

:thumbsup: Great work both of you chaps!:clap::clap: :clap::clap:

Must admit I do like the Lightning! :D

[clipper1801]

So it had to happen, I bought a few Furuta Choco Egg 1/200 P-38's . . .

http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h379/Revchaos/2013%20new%20wow/WWII/2013-08-27_21-35-49_112_zps486587cc.jpg (http://s1106.photobucket.com/user/Revchaos/media/2013%20new%20wow/WWII/2013-08-27_21-35-49_112_zps486587cc.jpg.html)

They make nice models! Now to the 5 metal New Ray P-38s in the box!

[Zoe Brain]

2 from AIM, 1 from Air200 (possibly the best model they make)

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[Blackronin]

Furuta Choco Egg 1/200 P-38
New Ray 1/200 P-38
Both together
I tried to go for more generic markings for both the European and Pacific Theaters.
Tony

The Furuta planes are much bigger than the New Ray?

[Blackronin]

All these P-38 make me want to paint a quartet of them. Pacific or Europe? How to choose...

[Zoe Brain]

All these P-38 make me want to paint a quartet of them. Pacific or Europe? How to choose...

Given the low price of the AIM figures - why not both?

[Zoe Brain]

BTW...

By my measurements: Furuta aircraft
P-38 = 1/172 (much too large compared with others)
J1N1 = 1/207 (a little too small, but barely acceptable)
Ki-26 = 1/189 (too large, difference is obvious)

[Blackronin]

Thanks Zoe.
Your help is always a constant. ;)

[OldGuy59]

Here's a few more P38s. All are Minicraft 1/144. The two green dragon planes were actually the first 1/144 kits I built, this about 5 years ago. Better late than never getting them photoed. First the is mount of Capt. Walter Duke 459th FS/80th FG, 10 kills and the top US ace in the CBI theater.
Next is a fictional Lightning of the same squadron.
Hot Box Annie from the 431st FS
The CO of the 475th FG was Col. Charles MacDonald and this is his Putt Putt Maru. He finished the war with 27 kills.
Maj. Tom McGuire CO 431st FS flew a series of Pudgy named Lightnings. He was 2nd leading US ace with 38 kills
America's Ace of Aces, Maj. Richard Bong scored 40 kills. This is one of his Marge aircraft.[/ATTACH]

A little late, Lloyd. However, on wide cards in WoG format...
Three from 475th:
"Missy V"
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"Haleakala"
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This was identified as a "4", but listed Maj Webb as the pilot.
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I found that 2Lt Joseph Robertson supposedly flew "Hot Box Annie":
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More to follow...

Mike :)

[Blackronin]

Mike:

Can you put these in the official medium base format?
Thanks.

[Flying Officer Kyte]

Cracking aircraft and cards Mike.
Rob.:clap:

[OldGuy59]

Mike:

Can you put these in the official medium base format?
Thanks.

Hmmm...

I could. If I had an idea what that was. I was copying "size" from a Max Headroom card (rough dimensions - ratio of width to height).

If there are standard dimensions to different aircraft sizes, I'd be happy to accommodate.

Actually, the above cards are a bit messed up for resolution (pixel rate is too low for my liking), and I'd like a reason to do them over. And I have no idea if the stats are right, either.

Mike :)

[Blackronin]

I'm under the impression, and correct me if I'm wrong, that the me-110 base will be the medium base for every two-engine fighters and fighter bombers.
Since the p-38 has a similar size I thought that it will have the same base.

The latest stats I have are these:

Lockheed P-38E Lightning - Deck: H - Guns: B-B-C / B - A Damage: 21(?)
Lockheed P-38L Lightning - Deck: P - Guns: B-B-C / B - A Damage: 22(?)

[OldGuy59]

Joaquim,
Could you give me the millimeter measurements for the different sizes of cards? That way, I can try to put cards in the files section that will print to the right size. I can try, anyway.

I may bump up the resolution for different sizes, too, as the above cards are pretty low.

Mike :)

[Blackronin]

87mm x 66mm

Exactly like this one:

http://www.aerodromeaccessories.com/index.php/flight-stands/wwii/beaufighter-mk-if-flight-stand.html

[clipper1801]

Saint Exupery's just had to be added to the squadron . . .

http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h379/Revchaos/2013%20new%20wow/WWII/2014-06-21_21-53-25_176_zpse94f6d4f.jpg (http://s1106.photobucket.com/user/Revchaos/media/2013%20new%20wow/WWII/2014-06-21_21-53-25_176_zpse94f6d4f.jpg.html)

Not happy yet with the color . . . needs to be lighter

http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h379/Revchaos/2013%20new%20wow/WWII/2014-06-21_21-53-15_81_zps4d0e4adc.jpg (http://s1106.photobucket.com/user/Revchaos/media/2013%20new%20wow/WWII/2014-06-21_21-53-15_81_zps4d0e4adc.jpg.html)

It started off as a New Ray P-38 I found at a local shop . . . the lady thought I was crazy to buy all the same plane : )

http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h379/Revchaos/2013%20new%20wow/WWII/2014-06-21_21-49-03_12_zps74f6fed5.jpg (http://s1106.photobucket.com/user/Revchaos/media/2013%20new%20wow/WWII/2014-06-21_21-49-03_12_zps74f6fed5.jpg.html)

[Jager]

The big problem with the stats for the P-38 is the difference (compared with "conventional" fighters) between it's max speed and it's roll rate and turn radius.
I don't think we have a consensus yet.
Karl

[Jago85]

I like the paint scheme so far,and I am really looking forward for the p-38 to come out. I have to agree with Karl on this one on max speed roll rate and turning radius.

[Mad Charly]

Hello guys
I need help for my P38s that I am preparing for a new scenario called "Kill Yamamoto"
Mike (oldguy59) have sent to me the Barbers's card and I am preparing the others using it as a master.
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Now I have some questions:
What's P38E maximum altitude and climb rate?
Where I could find H maneuver cards?
What is the meaning of * near H?

Many thanks for help.
Carlo

PS
When I'll finisch the scenario I'll post it in file section (both italian/english version).
Bye

[Teaticket]

I might have what you need. Contact me.

[cisco cischetti]

Finally, my P-38 is having her roll out!
This is Thomas McGuire's kite. Since the P-38's dimensions are very similar to the Beaufighter ones, I thought that the base of the British twin seater was better than the one of a single seater.
DISCLAIMER: the red writing on the port side of the nose has been painted by a friend of mine with a cool hand. If anyone wants to give me rep points, I will relay them to him. Promised :hatsoff:
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[Teaticket]

These Lightnings get better and better.

[miscmini]

Two Air200 models and one from Armaments in Miniature. All are 1/200 scale. US insignia are decals from I-94 Enterprises. All other decals are ones I made.

Air200 Lt Col James Herren, CO 434th FS
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Air200 Lt Lawrence Liebers, 429th FS
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AIM Lt Jack Lenox, Jr, 49th FS
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[Teaticket]

Here are a couple of AIM P-38 D/Es Vallejo Brown Violet. One I dry brushed some lighter green weathering.(#30)

This pair is 49th Fighter Group, 8th Fighter Squadron.

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[Blackronin]

Peter! These are astounding!
REP!

[Flying Officer Kyte]

Very nicely delineated indeed Pete.
More Rep.
Rob.

[Jager]

Nice Lightnings, Peter. Pacific or Europe bound?
Karl

[Teaticket]

Nice Lightnings, Peter. Pacific or Europe bound?
Karl

Pacific. 8th Fighter Group? I can't remember if these are 35th or 36th squadron. I'll have that info edited in tomorrow.

[Canestri10]

Tony those Futuro Egg 1/200 ones are absolutely stunning! I hope those pics get passed onto Ares for their upcoming release and they realise how much of a difference it is not to have those hideous unfinished edges. GO BACK TO PAINT ARES!

REP fired your way

[Jago85]

great work on the P-38 Peter

[Flying Helmut]

Superb P-38s, Peter! :clap:

[matt56]

Lovely P-38s, all! Peter, those AIM models are particularly sweet - love the way you 'highlighted' the panel lines. The AIM models are made for that kind of treatment...

All the best,
Matt

[Teaticket]

Nice Lightnings, Peter. Pacific or Europe bound?
Karl


Pacific. 8th Fighter Group? I can't remember if these are 35th or 36th squadron. I'll have that info edited in tomorrow.

Ok, my 1st choice was to do 8th FG but ended up painting 49th FG, 8th FS. 8th FG has a nice progression of P-39/P-400, P-40, P-47 and P-38s. 49th FG doesn't have the P-39/P-400s with only a short time with P-47s. When I get to painting my P-39s I'll get into the 8th FG.

[Teaticket]

Another pair of AIM Lightnings, P-38J. 49th FG, 9th FS.

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[cisco cischetti]

Another pair of AIM Lightnings, P-38J. 49th FG.

The planes are really gorgeous :thumbsup:
One thing: in my opinion, the P-38 wingspan was more similar to the Beaufighter, so I would have used a Beaufighter base instead of a single seater one.

[Teaticket]

Thanks. :embarrass:

The Unofficial WGS airplane list has it with a regular fighter base so that is what I went with.

[Jager]

Thanks. :embarrass:

The Unofficial WGS airplane list has it with a regular fighter base so that is what I went with.

That's is my opinion, though there is some discussion about it.
Karl

[LOOP]

Superb paitjob as usual Peter :thumbsup:

[Captain Chum]

Superb detail Peter, Super nice work! :sAprvd:

[BobP]

Just saw these and they are great. Well done all.

[Coog]

From an old post:

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/showthread.php?11214-Ambush-Over-the-Pacific

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[Jager]

From an old post:

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/showthread.php?11214-Ambush-Over-the-Pacific



I see some soon to be fried meatballs ;)
Karl

[Teaticket]

From an old post:

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/showthread.php?11214-Ambush-Over-the-Pacific



Now there is a happy flight of Lightnings.

[Lt. S.Kafloc]

Some inspiration there for my lone P-38 for the Pacific Peter, cheers. Great paint jobs by everyone.

[Teaticket]

Some inspiration there for my lone P-38 for the Pacific Peter, cheers. Great paint jobs by everyone.

I have 6 Oscars to finish up, then on to 4 more P-38s. After Cold Wars early November I'll be getting back to the Pacific campaign.

[Lt. S.Kafloc]

I've gone and restarted in 1938, going to progress through and play all the PTO missions again.

Neil


I have 6 Oscars to finish up, then on to 4 more P-38s. After Cold Wars early November I'll be getting back to the Pacific campaign.

[Teaticket]

I was thinking of starting in the Philippines, not quite as far back as you. I do have a nice book on the air war over Khalkin Gol, (book review 'HERE' (https://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/showthread.php?25928-WGSC-Air-War-over-Khalkin-Gol)) hmmmm....maybe you will draw me into early China.

[NewFlyBoy]

And speaking of the CBI theater, I'd love to play in a big game/campaign game on the Flying Tigers...how about it all those creative minds out there ???
B.

[badlands122]

Great Job!! those are a all very nice!!! That might be my next plane!!!

[Teaticket]

And speaking of the CBI theater, I'd love to play in a big game/campaign game on the Flying Tigers...how about it all those creative minds out there ???
B.

Ok Bill, you got me interested. Just got a few books on the theater and some new planes to paint.....Maybe by Havoc or HUZZAH! I'll be ready.

[fast.git]

Love the P-38. Ares... please supply the hook-up. We need der Gabelschwanz-Teufel. Please.

[OldGuy59]

Finally got around to updating the cards for these.

OldGuy59's WWII American Heavy Fighters Album (https://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/album.php?albumid=4135)

They should now be up-to-date with the Unofficial Stats Committee files.

[OldGuy59]

Pacific. 8th Fighter Group? I can't remember if these are 35th or 36th squadron. I'll have that info edited in tomorrow.
Peter,
I can't find any images of 8th Sqn P-38s, nor any p-38s with the markings you have on your awesome planes.

[Teaticket]

Peter,
I can't find any images of 8th Sqn P-38s, nor any p-38s with the markings you have on your awesome planes.

I got these from one of my Battle Colors books, unfortunately not with me at the moment. (see book reviews) From the top down they are close enough to what you have already done. But, my next set of four will have a slightly different scheme from a different unit. Those I will try to get pilot names for.

[Teaticket]

Ok Mike, from Battle Colors Vol V, my P-38 with the yellow spinners is from 8th Fighter Squadron, the red tipped one is from a later date of the 9th squadron. As with all attempts for correlation, I have 3 books all showing different schemes. Numbers are just what I had for decals. I wanted them done for a game so didn't dig deep to find historical numbers from the squadrons.

[fox]

To go with my corsairs ( I' ve got only five and I've 8 pilots in my campaign) . There's one épisode in Baa Baa black sheep ( Têtes brulées in French) where there's 2 P38.
https://i.servimg.com/u/f79/17/77/62/17/img_3845.jpg (https://servimg.com/view/17776217/4879)
https://i.servimg.com/u/f79/17/77/62/17/img_3846.jpg (https://servimg.com/view/17776217/4880)
https://i.servimg.com/u/f79/17/77/62/17/img_3847.jpg (https://servimg.com/view/17776217/4881)
https://i.servimg.com/u/f79/17/77/62/17/img_3848.jpg (https://servimg.com/view/17776217/4882)

[Diamondback]

This is a P-38 Angiolillo painted as the captured one flown by Col. Tondi:
https://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/showthread.php?32639-First-Ares-Games-paint-and-photo-contest-on-Facebook&p=525909&viewfull=1#post525909
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[Teaticket]

To go with my corsairs ( I' ve got only five and I've 8 pilots in my campaign) . There's one épisode in Baa Baa black sheep ( Têtes brulées in French) where there's 2 P38.
https://i.servimg.com/u/f79/17/77/62/17/img_3845.jpg (https://servimg.com/view/17776217/4879)
https://i.servimg.com/u/f79/17/77/62/17/img_3846.jpg (https://servimg.com/view/17776217/4880)
https://i.servimg.com/u/f79/17/77/62/17/img_3847.jpg (https://servimg.com/view/17776217/4881)
https://i.servimg.com/u/f79/17/77/62/17/img_3848.jpg (https://servimg.com/view/17776217/4882)

Very very nice Fox. Great lightnings!

Its amazing what the small difference in scale lets you do easier. After painting some 1/200 WW2 and then going to 1/144 WWI, the feel is so different.

[fox]

Thank you
You're right ,bigger is easier . I never did 1/200 but I suppose It must be more difficult.

[milcoll73]

rep guns jammed. AWESOME!!!

[fox]

P38 J 1/144
18th FG, 5th AF, USAAF
San Jose, Mindoro, Philippines.
(osprey aircam avion series n°10)
https://i.servimg.com/u/f81/14/92/25/23/img_4215.jpg (https://servimg.com/view/14922523/823)
https://i.servimg.com/u/f81/14/92/25/23/img_4216.jpg (https://servimg.com/view/14922523/824)

[milcoll73]

awesome!

[badlands122]

Those Look Really Good!! Great Job!!

[OldGuy59]

I have been advised that my P-38 cards are not the right size. For any official base size. Darn!

I will be redoing them, shortly.

This is the first one, with a new template:
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[Teaticket]

The .of the unofficial stats has the P-38 on a fighter base. Did I miss when it went to a HF base?

[Jager]

The .of the unofficial stats has the P-38 on a fighter base. Did I miss when it went to a HF base?

I haven't gotten there yet; yes, Andrea's opinion trumps mine, so the P-38 has a HF base.
Karl