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    Does somebody play with zeppelin miniatures? I'd like to play the London or Paris bombing. I found the zeppelin's card. how I can you use it.
    where I can found the miniature?
    thanks
    Daniele

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    There is a thread here on the site that talks a little about rules for them. As for minis, currently you only options are Skytrex (over US $300 and by special inquiry only as far as I know) and scratch building one your self. A third option should be coming real soon. My prototype kit is in the mail to me as I type this. I have to do a quick build on it for Origins in just under 2 weeks, but a 2nd prototype build will happen shortly after and then if all goes well, it will go to production.

    My kit will be a laser cut wood and fabric Type P zep. It will require assembly, covering and painting. I'm still working out the best way to base it. I hope to offer it for far less then the Skytrex one.

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    Can't wait to see that prototype, Colonel.

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    Has anyone ever converted the Lindberg Graf Zeppelin kit? Local store here has them for $40

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    Quote Originally Posted by Col. Hajj View Post
    There is a thread here on the site that talks a little about rules for them. As for minis, currently you only options are Skytrex (over US $300 and by special inquiry only as far as I know) and scratch building one your self. A third option should be coming real soon. My prototype kit is in the mail to me as I type this. I have to do a quick build on it for Origins in just under 2 weeks, but a 2nd prototype build will happen shortly after and then if all goes well, it will go to production.

    My kit will be a laser cut wood and fabric Type P zep. It will require assembly, covering and painting. I'm still working out the best way to base it. I hope to offer it for far less then the Skytrex one.
    Wow! You are going to be as busy as I am getting in the finishing touches for Origins!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Cowman View Post
    Wow! You are going to be as busy as I am getting in the finishing touches for Origins!!!
    Yes, I'm not 100% sure how complete/accurate this first one will be actually I'm not sure if I will get the gun bunker and gondolas done in time. It will be painted and should serve for a really nice and large "mini" on the table though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Col. Hajj View Post
    Yes, I'm not 100% sure how complete/accurate this first one will be actually I'm not sure if I will get the gun bunker and gondolas done in time. It will be painted and should serve for a really nice and large "mini" on the table though.
    Can't wait to see it... and I'll be saving up my couch change from this point on to buy one of the production models!
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    I'll wait to see it. Meantime I'm going to try with the zeppelin's card.
    Daniele.

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    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Wings-War-Uniq...item3cb8d56146

    There is a Zeppelin on Ebay at the moment it says wings of war i am not sure if this is correct but its on the WOW game mat not sure you could call it a mini lol

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    It looks very nice but it not seems so easy to use. Maybe I need to review my game plan.
    It's so big!

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    Whoa! I'm not sure that looking at the pictures as posted I would even want to use that in a WoW game. It looks like more trouble than its worth!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rommel View Post
    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Wings-War-Uniq...item3cb8d56146

    There is a Zeppelin on Ebay at the moment it says wings of war i am not sure if this is correct but its on the WOW game mat not sure you could call it a mini lol
    What company makes that particular zeppelin? It can't be Skytrex; the engine pods are completely different (not to mention the "Graf" at the front of the hull; this wouldn't have seen flight until after WWI -- right?)
    Last edited by Lugburz; 06-13-2011 at 16:55.

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    That is the Lindberg kit - you can get one here http://www.amazon.com/Lindberg-70816...0MQ7640:minis:
    Last edited by Albert Ross; 06-13-2011 at 18:28. Reason: Added link

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number4 View Post
    That is the Lindberg kit - you can get one here http://www.amazon.com/Lindberg-70816...0MQ7640:minis:
    Wow. That's a really great price! Only $49?! Marked down from $100. Geez, if I hadn't just blown a ton of money on 1/144 tank & truck miniatures, I would snap this up in a heartbeat.

    I know, I know.... the design is all wrong for the time period, but I can't justify the price of Skytrex's P-Type Zeppelin (not to mention the international shipping). With a 3'x8' gaming surface at home, I 'd probably end up scooting it down to one end of the table.

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    Has anyone seen THIS beauty before?--

    $300 USD (made to order in the Czech Republic)
    Last edited by Lugburz; 07-01-2011 at 11:14.

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    Keegan, that one has not been available for many years now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oberst Hajj View Post
    There is a thread here on the site that talks a little about rules for them. As for minis, currently you only options are Skytrex (over US $300 and by special inquiry only as far as I know) and scratch building one your self. A third option should be coming real soon. My prototype kit is in the mail to me as I type this. I have to do a quick build on it for Origins in just under 2 weeks, but a 2nd prototype build will happen shortly after and then if all goes well, it will go to production.

    My kit will be a laser cut wood and fabric Type P zep. It will require assembly, covering and painting. I'm still working out the best way to base it. I hope to offer it for far less then the Skytrex one.
    How big is your mini?
    did you try it in a game session?
    if yes how big was the mat?
    I'm fascinated. I'd like play a game with a zep!
    Ciao
    Daniele

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    My Zep is going to be at the correct 1/144 scale... so close to 4 feet long and around 8 inches wide. Very big! I'll be building it this week and it will have it's maiden flight at Origins later this month. I typically play on a 4x6 foot table. The Zep will sit in the middle of the table length wise (or maybe diagonal), so there will plenty of room to fly around and over/under it. It will also not move as the planes will be "buzzing" around it it. At Origins, we have 5x8 foot tables, so even more room for it!

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    As you will be piloting a Zeppelin Keith, will you be changing your rank to Kapitan zur See for Origins ?
    Last edited by flash; 06-14-2011 at 12:02.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bartman View Post
    Whoa! I'm not sure that looking at the pictures as posted I would even want to use that in a WoW game. It looks like more trouble than its worth!
    Agreed. We have a pilot who has just completed a Zeppelin he built from scratch using tube stock. I have not seen it yet as he has been gone to New Zealand and just returned. I don't know the exact scale of it. Hope he brings it to play tomorrow or Thursday so I can check it out. If it is scale it will be huge.

    That Lindberg kit is in a smaller scale, btw.

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    I think a zeppelin could be a lot of fun at cons where you could put 2 (or more) long tables end to end. They wouldn't move that quickly anyway, so you could get a good number of turns in before it 'escapes' off the end. Obviously, turning's an issue.

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    I think the key to using Zeps in a game is to keep them stationary. They are the focal point of the mission and all the action would/should happen around them. Keeping them still avoids most, if not all, of the issues that come up due to their size. To simulate them escaping, just set a turn limit on the game. This could be explained as Time on Target... or the scouts running low on gas in non military talk.

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    I figured that's how it would actually be played, and it's completely reasonable. I'm just going for something crazier. I may have to make a full-sized zeppelin 'card' and try it out at home. I've got a 10' dining room table. If need be I can break out the 8' banquet table to go with it

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    Okay, here is (I hope it works) a link to the pictures one of our pilot's two Zeps, [/URL]//http://scarybiscuitsstudios.blogspot.com/search/label/Wings%20Of%20War[/URL] he scratch built out of tube stock and tissue paper. They are not quite 1/144 scale, we estimate that they are about 1/168. I am encouraging him to post a 'How to...' thread on the building of these. These Zeps were built from both german and british schematics and photos, plus color plates. They will be deadly as there are no gaps in the firing arcs, i.e., no blindspots.

    If the link doesn't work, just cut and paste the 'http' into your search engine and it will take you there. We both are learning to upload pictures, or we'd have done that here.

    Enjoy!!

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    Sorry, I'm still learning. Link did not work. try this - http://scarybiscuitsstudios.blogspot...ngs%20Of%20War Got my fingers crossed!

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    Voila! It worked! Enjoy. A 'How to...' from Clipper1801 coming soon!

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    Well, those certainly do look snazzy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter View Post
    Sorry, I'm still learning. Link did not work. try this - http://scarybiscuitsstudios.blogspot...ngs%20Of%20War Got my fingers crossed!
    Dear god. It's ... BEAUTIFUL!

    *wipes tear from eye*

    I cannot wait to see the "how to" article for these magnificent beasts! The telescoping supports are brilliant.

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    Very nice... he has some serious skills! Were he a member here, I would be handing out some rep for those babies!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Cowman View Post
    Very nice... he has some serious skills! Were he a member here, I would be handing out some rep for those babies!
    Get ready Cowman, he's a member, names Clipper1801. He's been under orders to Report For Duty for three months and hasn't. Upon threat of Court-Martial he will report tomorrow afternoon! Or I will have to report this breech of military conduct to the Feldgendarmie! Seriously, he did not understand the report for duty process. So his son (Timelapse - here on the 'drome) and I showed him the Reportin' ropes. He's our Pastor, wow, can you imagine a Pastor with this talent and likes WoW! Sure makes Church more interesting than it already is.

    I've seen the photographs of the process of his building these and the constrction is amazing. I'm anxious for the final 'How to...' to be completed. He put a tiny magnet into the British one that he attaches a Camel to it for escort, as it shows in the original RNAS photos! Currently it's Olieslagers Camel but he is planning to repaint in the mufti of the appropriate RNAS unit.

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    Those do look good!

    The parts for my Zep showed up yesterday morning. I'm pretty impressed with how the laser cutting came out. I'll get some pics of the parts and some as I build it this weekend (man it is going to be a close call getting it all done before next Wednesday!!!).

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    I will wait for your Zeps Herr Oberst!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oberst Hajj View Post
    Those do look good!

    The parts for my Zep showed up yesterday morning. I'm pretty impressed with how the laser cutting came out. I'll get some pics of the parts and some as I build it this weekend (man it is going to be a close call getting it all done before next Wednesday!!!).
    I'm anxious to see your Zeps as they will be actual 1/144 scale. We're going to develop rules for these this in playing them. In fact this may be where the Black Swan will shine, no?

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    I agree, the zeppelin should be the focus of the game, the target! I'd like play a game in wich the zepp's mission is a ground bombing for example london's neigbour. The mission of defender is to shoot down the zeppelin with fighters and anti-aircraft guns.

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    Those Zep are awesome
    Better get the plans out and make one myself
    Linz

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harrier View Post
    I think a zeppelin could be a lot of fun at cons where you could put 2 (or more) long tables end to end. They wouldn't move that quickly anyway, so you could get a good number of turns in before it 'escapes' off the end. Obviously, turning's an issue.
    You`d be surprised, A Zeppelin had quite a reasonable turn of speed when compared with some of the earlier period aircraft, had a much better ceiling and a very good rate of climb (its lighter than air so all they have to do to is chuck out some balast!).
    Some had quite a reasonable amount of firepower as well!
    Best way to handle one in WoW I think to have it stationary in the middle of the map but to have the map move with the Zepp!
    That would involve moving all the attacking planes backwards towards the rear of the Zepp a distance equivelant to it`s forward speed untill they fall off the back of the map.

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    Someday I'd like to book an entire auditorium or gym-size room for a huge multi-Zeppelin raid, where the German players are trying to rack up "points" of ground-target damage, and the Allied players are trying to "light the cigars"--possibly with the option to try to frag the Luftschiffhallen before the ships are moved out to launch or after they're mooring and unable to evade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rabbit 3 View Post
    You`d be surprised, A Zeppelin had quite a reasonable turn of speed when compared with some of the earlier period aircraft, had a much better ceiling and a very good rate of climb (its lighter than air so all they have to do to is chuck out some balast!).
    Some had quite a reasonable amount of firepower as well!
    At risk of Recommending a Non-WoW Game On A WoW Forum: I suggest you get (if you don't have it already) _Airships At War_: http://0191362.netsolhost.com/Level2/aaw.html -- it is... illustrative... as to why military airships failed in WW1 (and why they're never ever making a comeback).

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    But what a way to travel. like an ocean liner of the skies. I'd love to go up in one just floating on the breeze. hmmmm
    Linz

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    Herr Oberst had his Zep at Origins...there are pics of it here

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    In the one picture is appears to be under attack from 15 planes. Any word on how it fared.

    Pooh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pooh View Post
    In the one picture is appears to be under attack from 15 planes. Any word on how it fared.

    Pooh
    In that particular battle, the Zep went down with only two aircraft being lost by the Entente attackers. Redcoon2 was the first attacker to go down, and returned as an Albatross in support of the Zep. I (The cow-spotted SE.5a on the port side of the Zep) decided to cross under the Zep and go after his Albatross. As I flew along the starboard side of the Zep I misjudged my turn, and got too close to the Zep. I took hits from four seperate Zep gunners, and then was shot down not long after that to return as the second Alabtross escorting the Zep. The Zep went down about one turn later.
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