So far Ares has not produced any Australian or New Zealand painted aircraft, and lost a chance to do so with the P.40 rather than the French version. So with the possiblity of a Dauntless coming out who would support a New Zealand model?
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NZ Dauntless
So far Ares has not produced any Australian or New Zealand painted aircraft, and lost a chance to do so with the P.40 rather than the French version. So with the possiblity of a Dauntless coming out who would support a New Zealand model?
I would certainly buy one...
...or, perhaps, two...
Whilst I would welcome a NZ Dauntless for our Kiwi members it would not fit in with my Pacific War. I would prefer to see a pre midway US colour scheme, a Midway one & a late war scheme.
Good idea!
I'll support this, because we need land based bombers for Guadalcanal and New Guinea missions.
This brings more diversion into the Pacific theater missions, too.
Don't get me wrong, but there a planes I never used, like the Soviet Hurricane or the Dewotoines. This will not happen to a RNZAF Dauntless.
...and it should be very easy to convert the RNZAF Dauntless into an USAAF Dauntless.
Voilŕ le soleil d'Austerlitz!
Whilst not fitting into my plans for my air-forces, i would welcome the addition of anything that enhanced the gaming possibilities for those Down under.
Rob.
"Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."
Nothing agains NZs, but I want an American one. The SBD with nice blue-grey camouflage. But I am crossing fingers for one NZ SBD between two US
I think that there is enough people wanting one to be considered.
I would buy first American paintings to fill my needs, but I think that the possibility of one or two find their way into my home is indeed likely.
Yes . I am not a big WW2 guy so it dosn't matter to me but I do like different countries to be represented
How many SBDs were flown by NZ and for what time frame? What major battles did they take part in?
Oh!! The terrible reality check!! Will the NZ SBD's survive it? We will find out in the next chapters.Originally Posted by Oberst Hajj
The Wikipedia says:
Royal New Zealand Air Force
The Royal New Zealand Air Force received 18 SBD-3s and 23 SDB-4s, and RNZAF 25 Squadron did use them successfully in combat over the South Pacific.
Under the original plan, four Squadrons (25, 26, 27 and 28 Sqn) of the RNZAF were going to be equipped with the Dauntless, but only 25 Sqn used them. The RNZAF soon replaced them with F-4U Corsairs.
Yes, the harsh light of realitySo according to Wiki, 5,936 SBDs were built and NZ got 41 of them. Not so good odds to have one of three minis representing them. Sounds like it would be easier to repaint a US SBD into a NZ version than the other way around
I'm all for bringing the Aussies and NZ in to the war, but I don't think this is the plane to do it with. In fact, my personal opinion is that any secondary countries using a plane should not see one in their colors until the reprint of that series. Make the initial release of all Series dedicated to the main country that flew them and only checking of the various nationality boxes as we get reprints.
Well they made a Norwigan Gloster Gladiator, and Norway only had 12 of them!
Yeah, and we've seen how well those have sold
5,936 Dauntless built. NZ received 41. NZ used 0,7% of total built Dauntless.
746 Gadiators built. Norway received 12. Norway used 1,6% of total built Gladiators.
I'm joking of course, but statistically it makes more sense to have a Norwegian Gladiator than a New Zealand Dauntless.
Now! A Portuguese Spitfire! That makes sense!!
And I'm waiting for the Norwegian Gladiators to sell at $5 and I'll have 4 of them to... turn them to British Gladiators...
What am I the only person who has got anyYeah, and we've seen how well those have soldIn reality it should have been Belgim one to go with the Belgim Hurricane, or better still a Finish one!
Last edited by Doug; 01-17-2014 at 00:13.
Yes I agree. I belive ARES has missed the oppertunity to make Australian models. Firstly with the Fee French Desert P.40's how mand of those have been sold? I belive is should have been an Aussi P40 for the Battle of Milme Bay (Our eqivlent of the BoB). I would have been happy with just that! Secondly the Beauhfighter, what was the point of doing a night fighter when ARES has not written any night fighting rules. It should of been an Australian made MkIV. However the day Mk1 dayfighter was an easy one to convert as only decals needed changing as when Australia sent them into action in English cammo.
No, you and two other guysWhat am I the only person who has got any
Actually, all of them. The WGS Starter set has been sold out for a good while now. But I do agree with you here.
I could not agree more. With out night fighting rules, they are next to worthless other than black always sales good to gamersOddly enough, both the Beauhfigher and 110 in night colors were/are the second best sellers for each type (from my sales data).
What plane type did Aussie and NZ fly the most of and for the longest?
RAAF:
- Curtis P-40 Kittyhawk ('42-'45): 800+
- Supermarine Spitfire ('42-'45): 600+
- De Havilland Mosquito ('43-'45): 200+
- Consolidated B-24 Liberator ('44-'45): 200+
- Bristol Beaufighter ('42-'45): 500+
- Bristol Beaufort ('41-'45): 700+
The numbers might be a little off, as most of these aircraft continued in service after the end of the war and the numbers may represent post-war acquisitions.
Last edited by fast.git; 01-17-2014 at 08:03. Reason: Added Bristol workhorses
But they should be close enough for our needs. So the P-40 and Spitfire would be the most logical choice for bringing them into the battle. Bring on the Special reprints then!
Good for repaintsYeah, and we've seen how well those have sold
Actually, probably P40 and Beaufort would be the logical choices. The overall numbers FG has used are a little deceiving, as they account for lots of attrition spares for aircraft only equipping a small number of sqns. The P40 (E or N variant, the others being minor players for the RAAF) is the most significant fighter for the RAAF (in both the Pacific and Med), and the Beaufort VIII the RAAF's license-built bomber, and the greatest numerical user of the type in any variant. Of course to make the Beaufort a viable mini release for the mass market, some official torpedo rules are required.
I'd buy 4 to turn into Finnish Gladiators.
See you on the Dark Side......
That was my concern. Additionally, I believe that a number of the Spits used by the RAAF were of a variety we don't have at the moment (Vs and VIIIs, to name a couple).
You're spot-on, though VCs (ok, and a single VB) and VIIIs are the only RAAF (SWPA) Spitfires.
http://www.airforce.gov.au/raafmuseu...eries2/A58.htm
Last edited by Baldrick62; 01-17-2014 at 10:34. Reason: link added
The RAAF also had 200 Commonwealth Boomerangs.
It will be good to have aircraft in Australian and New Zealand markings to honour all their airmen but maybe the Dauntless is not the best model for this.
[QUOTE=Baldrick62;267338]Actually, probably P40 and Beaufort would be the logical choices.[QUOTE] Agreed 100%
For me from my personal bias's on the early part of the war, the three most important planes for Australia were:
1/ The Lockhed Huson which saw some of the fearset fighting In the early part of the war from Malaya to PNG
2/ The P40 which came in time for the battles in PNG eg Milme Bay and the Kakoda Track and Buna and in my view was a war winner for Australia
3/ The Bristol Beaufighter both British and Australian made.
Also another aircraft the would be No 4 on my list is the Bristol Beaufort
This is my view only but based on my historical research. Spitfires and other aircraft came along when the battle was won, though I would admit a Catalina would be nice!
Last edited by Doug; 01-17-2014 at 20:38.
Agreed a Boomerang would be better
I would love to have 4 Australian boomerangs.
Why not go for 5, and then you could have one from every operational sqn that ever flew them, including the two (83 & 85) that never left the Australian mainland.
Last edited by Baldrick62; 02-06-2014 at 14:23.
This has been an intresting poll I am pleasantly supprised with the support for RAAF and RNZA models however I am force to agree with Heer Oberst
So I hope all the Dauntles's are American I definitly want one for Midway and a Marine model and we will probably get one for the Mediterterain Yat again thanks for your imput. AlastairYes, the harsh light of reality
I'm all for bringing the Aussies and NZ in to the war, but I don't think this is the plane to do it with. In fact, my personal opinion is that any secondary countries using a plane should not see one in their colors until the reprint of that series. Make the initial release of all Series dedicated to the main country that flew them and only checking of the various nationality boxes as we get reprints.
I voted no since i use 144 scale planes. The idea of a Dauntless in NZ paint is great. It gives me ideas for one i need to build! I already have four in various US schemes, that would be different.
Rich
Rich
Rich,
See F-Toys Vol.10; already has it covered so no need for repaints - http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/sho...lection-Vol-10
BdiR
Balders
I am not so lucky, it is a kit to build!
Rich
Ah, alles klar!
Balders
I have a Minicraft TBM and Testors mini plane that may both get New Zealand markings. I have three or four in US already looking for some diversity!
Rich
Rich thanks for your support!
Alastair
A worthy cause!
Rich
Rich,
Diversity is always good, even with Kiwis! You could even give them some RNZAF Corsairs as escort.
BofB
Balders
I have a primed Revel Mini Corsair looking for a paint job! Not a bad idea! I actually considered some like this RN scheme. I see the Kiwi`s used USN standard paint jobs on their birds. There are two or three Minicraft Tempest`s on my build shelf. I may do the Corsair in with the Extra Dark Sea Grey,Dark Slate Grey and Sky undersides. It would go with my 21 Century Hellcat!
Rich
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