Great Jan.
We are going to get two for the price of one.
Rob.
Great Jan.
We are going to get two for the price of one.
Rob.
Blew my chances, my own fault for not reading the small print. Did he fly the Alb Dva? (Only spare option I have left).
Thanks everyone, I'll get my skates on and get going. (Don't think I'll need the freezer or hot water this time!)
I can't even find it. Is it stated somewhere that an entry has to be anonymous?
So, what's the line then? How do you intend to rule the distinction between acceptable backgrounds and illegal "dioramas"? It was noted in the last contest that the pictures of planes flying "over the coast" on the official maps made a large difference in the perception of at least one judge. Would you have banned Clipper's entry if he took pics of the plane on the deck of his HMS Furious model? Are we allowed to use non-WoG maps as backgrounds? What about photo spreads of Olivia Wilde? Are submissions illegal if another plane happens to be in the picture? Is image manpulation strictly forbidden (I assume cropping at least is o.k.)? If not, what are the guidelines for that? I believe some of the old contests had planes photoshopped onto backgrounds.
I'm not trying to be difficult, I just like to understand the guidelines.
I am correct in assuming if I went into an individuals profile I would have access to their entry photo via their album?
If so is my entry illegal ? i.e. my Fokker Dr1 that I posted in the hobby section under:
http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/sho...ng-competition
First rule about painting competition is don't talk about painting competition.
I know it’s not entirely possible, but I like to keep the entries anonymous to help level the playing field some. That is why I have everyone place their photos into a “Profile” album. Photos in those can only be seen if you have the direct link to them (which you send me in the PM).
As for dioramas and backgrounds…
Photographing the plane(s) with a gaming mat or sky background is fine. Knowing how to photograph your planes in the most flattering manor is not against the rules. Building supporting elements, using other planes to tell a story, and the like would not be allowed. Had clipper sent in images on the carrier, I would have asked him to send in some different ones without it. If I feel photos appear to be heavily Photoshopped, I’ll inquire about them in more detail. Simple level and color corrections I have no issues with.
If it ever gets to the point where people appear to be cheating, I’ll either not allow them to enter any longer, or I’ll just stop the contests. But I don’t think that is going to happen.
So, is that a restriction that you can't enter previously posted content, or just a preference?
Well, that's exactly my point. It's hard to call anything cheating when every entry is a judgement call. By your current standards, would you have asked CrashX to replace his DH.2 pictures with extra planes in the background? If I print out an old black and white flight line picture to use as the backdrop for my entry to this contest, is that kosher?
And I know you're not gonna start banning entrants left and right, but I'd like to know my limitations before I set my pictures (or start painting, really).
No one wants to come the heavy, particularly not Keith who would have to be one of the most approachable and laid back forum moderators in the history of wargaming forums!
Just stick to the contest concept which is pretty clear - Pick a plane flown by MvR, paint it up best you can, stick it on a flight stand, take some photos (on your playing map, white box, sky background, keep it simple), submit your entry, don't post it anywhere else, don't discuss your entry.
I agree with the last part - I would not like to see entrants try to organise voting blocks, it would detract from the spirit and purpose of the contest.
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Most of this should be caught by the "Must be painted during the contest period" rule. If you posted photos of the plane before the contest started, it is already not legible to be entered. If you paint and post it after the contest starts, you are just allowing your competition to see what they
Since I'm the one that would say someone is "cheating" and I'm the one that would make the judgment call before the entry is excepted, I don't see a problem really. There would never be a cheating entry in the voting part of the contest. I allowed CrashX's photos with the other planes of that flight in the background as 1) he made it clear which planes were the ones entered into the contest, and 2) they showed they were part of a bigger flight... which was what the contest's theme was.Well, that's exactly my point. It's hard to call anything cheating when every entry is a judgement call. By your current standards, would you have asked CrashX to replace his DH.2 pictures with extra planes in the background? If I print out an old black and white flight line picture to use as the backdrop for my entry to this contest, is that kosher?
There is a huge difference between a background for your image and a diorama. Backgrounds are allowed, everything else is not.
If you think it might not be allowed, don't do it. There is plenty of leeway in the rules for you to enter with out fear of getting an entry banned.And I know you're not gonna start banning entrants left and right, but I'd like to know my limitations before I set my pictures (or start painting, really).
These contest take a lot of time and effort to run, so if they get to complicated, I'm just not going to do them. I simply don't have the time mess with it these days.
Could I just check, the rules states that the plane has to be of a type flown by MvR so can I paint any Albatros DIII flown by any pilot and enter it in the competition?
Hi Burt, the answer is yes.
From the first post:
Rules:
•One entry per member
•Miniature must be an aircraft type flown operationally by MvR (not training or testing, see list below) . The plane could have been flown by another pilot, but the type had to have been flown by MvR. This opens up several German plane types to paint!
•The miniature can be from any manufacture, but must be of the correct type of plane.
•Must be painted during the contest period.
The work is done.
Entry PM is delivered.
Great contest, Herr Oberst.
As always I am behind time, so busy weekend ahead!
Don't worry, wingman.
I'm going on vacation the last May week - no time to paint and post pictures there.
That's the reason for my fast participation.
Have a great time then, Sven Magnificent Austrian Alps as usual?
Yes.
I'll post it in the Over the Trenches Officer's Mess, soon.
Just over a week everyone!
Got my entry in! But I kinda phoned this one in, so I'll be disappointed in you guys if you let me get another medal.
Just a couple more days now everyone!
Entry submitted, my first contest!
Is there any bling/gong for that?
Only if you win Andy!
I'm working on it Keith, honest. You would not believe the problems I've had this month, and my Good Lady's broken hand was only part of it.
Rob.
Rob, you did not break your Good Lady's hand to prevent her from interfering with your painting, did you?
Anyway, my entry is almost finished (just the struts left to do), but I am sure the quality of the pictures is going to suck big time again.
Getting down to the wire guys and girls!
Ever had one of those moments when you think "That's not supposed to happen"?
I just had one such moment when I grabbed a can of what I thought was Tamiya flat clear to finish off my entry...... and after the first pass I realised it was actually a spray tin of Tamiya flat aluminium. First time I've done anything like that in over 35 years of model making
Lucky I started on the underside and I can repaint and redecal when it drys, but I am out for this contest.
Now to reorganise my work bench and put my TRS 80 flat clear on a completely different shelf......
I am sorry to hear that Carl.
Ouch sorry to hear that Carl
Thanks guys. I repainted this morning but I have lost the underside and fuselage decals that came with the aircraft from Skytrex, so I will have to make some more.
C'est la Guerre!
Real sorry Carl.
I know how it feels. I once varnished a regiment of Highland troops with white undercoat, and wondered why a bloom was forming on the surface until it started to turn whiter. Oh the pain of having to repaint all the striped kilts and diced socks.
At least that was not for a comp though.
I now keep my undercoat on a totally different shelf.
Rob.
Sorry to hear the news Carl! Know the feeling, been there myself a time or two...
Last day for entries everyone!!
Entry sent. Good luck everyone.
I'm back from my vacancies in Austria and curious for the entires.
Yes, got mine in before we left for Partizan.
Good to heare you are back Sven. i hope you had a good time.
Rob.
Great you are back Sven I hope you had a great time in the mountains!
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